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Kanji Tatsumi | 巽 完二 ([personal profile] truerevelation) wrote in [community profile] synopsychic2020-09-14 10:37 pm

After Waking World mission, wk. 2

Yo. So, been out in the Wakin' World - I figure the other guys out here are gonna have their own things to share, but got some stuff that ... Well, it ain't pretty. I mean, it's kinda pretty if you can see it but - ah, hell, you know what I mean.

Uploaded the raw data to the network if anyone can handle it. But lemme try and show-

[Kanji starts streaming a view of a computer display - showing what looks like a map of Snowflake picked out in strange colours and fine threads. A hand taps the screen briefly, cycling through different displays of interlocking fractals, but one thing stands out clearly: the patterns converge on the space elevator.]

Was expectin' to get some kinda ...tracking data when I went looking. Got this instead. It's ... it's crazy complex, but there's only three real frequency ranges bein' transmitted in there.

Turns out they're the same frequencies as your regular dreamin' person's brainwaves. And the Skyhook elevator's the antenna that's blastin' it all. It's everywhere...
insidegalra: (This is suspicious.)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-15 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
[Thace's last appearance on the network, at least publicly, was right before Anafiel was supposed to use Infiltrator Redux on him. He sounds grim now.]

Snowflake is the source of broadcasts, including software patches, that make up the collective unconscious of the dreaming synthetics on Aratta, and probably farther. Those are likely to be the frequencies you're picking up on, and I heavily suspect they are affecting far more than just synthetics.

I can also report disturbing code in the dreaming software that hard-wires certain principles of the Orthopraxy into it. And that this code has also started appearing in other places, such as ships' computers.

I'm currently trying to fulfil my half of a bargain, which includes investigating more into that code, and hoping that Thetan will be willing to help us once he's able to confirm for himself what we've already hypothesized or proven to be happening.
claudiometer: looking up from a case file (o rly?)

[personal profile] claudiometer 2020-09-15 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
huh. Weird that Alexandra's so meme-resistant, in that case.

I'll see if that's made its way into her warehouse, at least. But it sounds like we can't just shut the damn thing down... unless that's a last resort.
insidegalra: (Look upon it and have hope.)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-15 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Are there synthetics who are Conductors? Perhaps the code might affect non-synthetics differently
claudiometer: with handcuff remote (I cast summon Artie)

[personal profile] claudiometer 2020-09-15 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
...You know, I have no idea.
insidegalra: (Look upon it and have hope.)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-15 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
We should look into that. Leah might know.
claudiometer: ye olde side-eye smirk (Default)

[personal profile] claudiometer 2020-09-15 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
She probably would, given that she's the de facto leader.

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[personal profile] reallymean 2020-09-15 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Can you determine which principles without being infected by them yourself?
insidegalra: (Resting frowny face.)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-15 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Given time, I believe so. I hesitate to put it onto a device or the network before we know exactly how infectious it is, so I'm reading through it bit by bit at the moment.
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2020-09-16 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the trouble, isn't it? Any way we try to get a look at this risks spreading the infection.
insidegalra: (That is mildly concerning.)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-16 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
That is the main issue. What I can make of it is that it uses fractals, tessellation, and generation of code from them to simulate dreaming and collective unconsciousness. Neither Thetan nor I know why the simulation programmed this way, or what the unique fractals do when processed.

What we are certain of is that the processing happens through a lens that contains the entirety of the Orthopractic premises and resolutions. Which Thetan strongly objects to because he believes that any logical being should be able to recognize the wisdom of the Orthopraxy and choose to follow it.

This code, if not removes, then at least coerces the choice. He finds that very upsetting.

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helborn: (why would you do that?)

[personal profile] helborn 2020-09-15 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Quoting from Leah - "...the hardwiring has got to go. What do you need to identify what in that signal makes our memes Conductive, and to hack in means to make me, us, semi-Conductive Resistors who only spread the Role on purpose? How about inoculating the rest of you, making Insulators?"

I figured that was safe enough to ask.
insidegalra: (Look upon it and have hope.)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-15 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Tell her that I'm working through the code myself at the moment, and will appreciate all help I can get. From those experienced with coding, or those with archetypes that would be useful for answering those questions.
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[personal profile] helborn 2020-09-15 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Pezzotaite is "an Arattan Hecatite programmer of productivity and anti-productivity simulations, living in the Polyclinic Lattice and with business contacts in the Alliance, Aidiaphoric and Synthetic districts." He said he can help. He also flagged Claudia for helping, but that's who's popped up from her group.
insidegalra: (Look upon it and have hope.)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-15 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'm working with Claudia already. She was the first I thought of.

What district is he in now? I could go and meet up with him.

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crouching_sin: (a gentleman and a scholar)

[personal profile] crouching_sin 2020-09-15 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
If you want help, just message me and share your perspective. The coding language is different from what I know, but I should be able to figure it out quickly.

If something like that did manage to infect me I'd be incredibly impressed, given a number of factors.
Edited 2020-09-15 02:50 (UTC)
insidegalra: (Wait. What?)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-15 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
I have mostly avoided learning those skills that weren't defensive, or frequenting the network at all until relatively recently.

I would give you permission to view my senses, if you can use that skill from a distance.
crouching_sin: (and this is crazy)

[personal profile] crouching_sin 2020-09-15 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I can. As long as we're connected to the same network, I can do it. You just have to share it with me.
insidegalra: (Look upon it and have hope.)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-15 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Then you have it. I'm dropping my defenses now.

[Thace mentally shudders. He doesn't like leaving his mind open like this, but it's for the mission!

And the code in front of him is relatively standard for Arattan programing. Thetan has it open to one of the worrying sections.]

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okanetendo: (let's make a Pact.)

[personal profile] okanetendo 2020-09-16 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Or trying to sneak these rules under their firewalls by going "Hey, here's a free software patch that lets you dream! Don't bother reading all the Terms and Conditions, no one does that, it's fine, don't worry about it."

I have to admire the audacity of it even though it's straight bullshit.
insidegalra: (This is suspicious.)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-16 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Thetan is very disturbed, because that is not how it's supposed to be. Hard encoding the principles goes against one of the first Axioms.

Earlier, Allura and I were discussing how Sift might be useful to us. I think it will be. Thetan doesn't know any more than I what the tessellated fractals are supposed to be doing. I think that may be the key. Or one of the keys.
insidegalra: (Sheepish grin.)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-17 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
[Thace sounds a little sheepish.] I don't know it myself, although I'm willing to learn. When we were discussing it, the discussion included whether or not we should put out a notice seeking those who know it. I could also run an analytics on it, but aside from my own coding and encryption training, that's all I bring to the table.

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okanetendo: (:ru serious)

[personal profile] okanetendo 2020-09-16 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
What IS the Orthopraxy? What does being a good Ortho look like?
insidegalra: (Look upon it and have hope.)

[personal profile] insidegalra 2020-09-16 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It is how the Hecatites govern and shape their society. Some of the assumptions and generalizations in particular are concerning, but Orthopraxy promotes social and political harmony and divides their society by how well they know and conform to the principles.

Thetan wants me to add that hard-coding the principles into something like this is at best redundant and at worst goes against one of the first axioms of the Orthopraxy. He is also less than pleased with my biased explanation.